<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:georss='http://www.georss.org/georss' xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5299621212217268338</id><updated>2012-02-06T16:37:05.887-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Old School Baptists are the Real McCoy</title><subtitle type='html'></subtitle><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://oldschoolbaptists.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5299621212217268338/posts/default?max-results=100'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://oldschoolbaptists.blogspot.com/'/><link rel='hub' href='http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/'/><author><name>LeRoy</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>1</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>100</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5299621212217268338.post-5588667324249871305</id><published>2009-07-16T20:37:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2009-12-24T05:03:38.647-08:00</updated><title type='text'>...WHAT DOES "OLD SCHOOL BAPTIST" MEAN?...</title><content type='html'>&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:85%;"  &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:85%;"  &gt; &lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;W&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;hy are they called "&lt;strong&gt;Old School  Baptists&lt;/strong&gt;" or "&lt;strong&gt;Primitive Baptists&lt;/strong&gt;"? Because they were around in the first century in a place called "Olchon", a valley near today's Craswall, Herfordshire, Great Britain. They were not Calvinists, having been around 1464 years before John Calvin's break with Roman Catholicism in 1530 A.D. Neither can they be considered "Protestants" of the 15th century reformation era. Many Baptists did identify with the Calvinist, Presbyterian and English Catholics [Anglicans] in order to avoid persecutions, even unto death.... but the reclusive Baptists of the Olchon Valley refused this collusion.... hence true "Old School Baptists" [&lt;em&gt;Primitive&lt;/em&gt;] &lt;u&gt;of today&lt;/u&gt; can, in spite of  spurious arguments to the contrary, verify their historical separation from  Calvinism as certain heresy!&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:85%;"  &gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:85%;"  &gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(128, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;V&lt;/span&gt;iew from the head of  the valley&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;, where Baptist "type" Christian maintained isolation and security from the persecutions of the dominant Roman Catholic Church, because of their no-conformity in defense of Pauline doctrinal beliefs. These doctrines were received from the Apostle Paul, who taught them through a British couple, Claudia and Pudens, who visited Paul in his personal residence in Rome in 63-66 A.D. Ref: &lt;/span&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.pb.org/pbdocs/chhist5.html"&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:85%;"  &gt;http://www.pb.org/pbdocs/chhist5.html&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;  -  Chapter IV "&lt;em&gt;Ancient Baptist Succession in Wales&lt;/em&gt;"  Paragraph Ten [&lt;em&gt;Ibid. "History of the Welch Baptists" - Jonathan Davis A.D.  1835&lt;/em&gt;]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="white-space: nowrap;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=2Ti&amp;amp;c=4&amp;amp;v=21&amp;amp;t=KJV#21"&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:85%;"  &gt;2Ti 4:21&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:85%;"  &gt;   "Do thy diligence to come before winter. Eubulus greeteth thee, and  &lt;strong&gt;Pudens&lt;/strong&gt;, and Linus, and &lt;span class="criteria"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Claudia&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;, and all the brethren."  [kjv]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: center;"&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_yngca2Stcq4/SmB0sNvZ_wI/AAAAAAAABIQ/U4T9bEU7zhY/s1600-h/Olchon.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 400px; height: 300px;" src="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_yngca2Stcq4/SmB0sNvZ_wI/AAAAAAAABIQ/U4T9bEU7zhY/s400/Olchon.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5359411859522453250" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/60713766@N00/3728676606/in/photostream/"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold;"&gt;V&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;alley of Olchon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt; &lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:85%;"  &gt;There are 189 mountains in this piedmont complex over 2,000 ft high. Paris Mountain in Greenville County, SC is 1,000 ft high - Caesars Head Mountain and Table Rock Mountain near by are 2,000 feet above Greenville Airport [1,000 MSL]... plenty of places to hide from the Popes' agents of death, over a 1,200 year period&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_yngca2Stcq4/SmB1uy8kD7I/AAAAAAAABIg/7UPhO1rQ0qs/s1600-h/Olchon2.jpg"&gt;&lt;img style="margin: 0px auto 10px; display: block; text-align: center; cursor: pointer; width: 400px; height: 266px;" src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_yngca2Stcq4/SmB1uy8kD7I/AAAAAAAABIg/7UPhO1rQ0qs/s400/Olchon2.jpg" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5359413003381116850" border="0" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:85%;"  &gt;&lt;span style="color: rgb(153, 0, 0); font-weight: bold;font-size:130%;" &gt;I&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(153, 0, 0);"&gt;n recent years&lt;/span&gt;, Calvinists have resorted to using  the unbiblical institution of Seminaries to spread Calvinistic doctrine. It is  reported that 30% of Southern Baptist Seminary graduates are Calvinists today!  Southern Baptists have been predominantly Arminian fundamentalists, so the  dependence on human works in eternal salvation will continue to permeate these  churches as they change over to Calvinistic theology. Modern Calvinism teaches a  sovereign Grace salvation through predestination by God - but negates it's own  basis by claiming that professing believers who fall away will not make it to  heaven - forgetting completely the life of King Solomon.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:85%;"  &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;&lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:85%;"  &gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(153, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;T&lt;/span&gt;he true hope of the Gospel&lt;/span&gt; [&lt;em&gt;Good News&lt;/em&gt;] is  that God not only chooses His elect but saves them totally independent of man's  fallen [corrupted] will.... and that they are secure because He does it all.  Living the Christian life is a temporal deliverance from many moral and social  ills, which also purges the natural conscience to give peace and comfort to the  saints. A grossly disobedient child does not cease to be a child, but looses the  favor which affords him peace through a clean conscience. A Christian may so  abuse his conscience, so that he looses the peace that would afford him  confidence in a life in the hereafter, but from the Father's perspective, His  son will loose none of those for whom He died! This proper view of the Old  School Baptists is biblical and opposes the false doctrine of the Calvinists  which declare dogmatically that the gross backslider gives proof that he was not  chosen by God in the first place. This Calvinist caveat is what allows them to  try to bind and enslave believers so they can extract tithes and offering more  easily to keep their large commercial evangelical efforts afloat - similar to  their theological mother, Augustinian sacramental Catholicism. No money flowing,  no denominational success.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:85%;"  &gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div style="text-align: justify;"&gt;&lt;span style=";font-family:Arial;font-size:85%;"  &gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(153, 0, 0);"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;I&lt;/span&gt;n the 1960's&lt;/span&gt; the Southern Baptists formulated that  the missionary cost of winning a soul then was $6.38 each. This money driven  evangelical philosophy is the foundation that keeps the 'works theology' alive  and it's adherents paying their fair share of church taxes [&lt;em&gt;donations&lt;/em&gt;].  Slick 5th Avenue promotion, with huge physical plants and full orchestral  services, makes merchandizing their brand of Christianity very lucrative for  those who need to feel religiously satisfied. Their true hope of the Gospel  [&lt;em&gt;good news&lt;/em&gt;] is not based upon what God has done, [Psa 51:1-4] but what men have  done through will and effort! 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